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Ravelan's avatar

Horrifying. What is wrong with people? Salzman sounds heavily vaccinated.

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Harold Saive's avatar

Is there a vaccine for ZIONISM?

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David Harold Chester's avatar

It comes in little bottles each carefully named propaganda against the truth, but its sale has been very ineffective because it kills all feelings of humanity first.

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CK's avatar

Actually...

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Harold Saive's avatar

That was a month ago and I missed visiting the details of the issue at the time but ran across again here at the 15 minute mark. But the entire video is good. - https://youtu.be/9aI8r70Znvk

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David Harold Chester's avatar

To kill any more Palestinians continues to be a criminal offense, but with the provision that they are only civilians and not part and party to Hamas and/or other related terrorist organizations. When Hamas broke out of Gaza on 7th October, they behaved in a way that so clearly marked then as terrorists and homicidal thugs, rapists, women and child killers, that the only sensible response was to claim the dire need for their complete elimination, and the Israeli government still seeks this solution to their terrorism.

During the many years preceding this latest war, there have been repeated attempts on the part of Israel to make peace with the Palestinians. All have been refused and within the leaders of the Palestinians it now appears that these leaders were pretending to seek a solution that would give Palestinians sovereignty but actually were less obviously supporting the terrorists in words if not in cash.

Israel has no wish to eliminate the Palestinians who have proved to be most useful when they are able to enter Israel as working forces. But with this war, this can no longer continue to happen. Their entry was with the provision that they behave as non-combatants but simply wish earn a income and to live their lives in peace. But now it seems that their leaders have stirred up so much trouble that the Israeli government will not allow them to do this any more.

These biased and apparently hate-filled Palestinian leaders deliberately encourage so much bad education and hatred that more and more of their young people seek revenge for a situation that they don't properly understand but that is synthetic and propaganda based rather than one related to the true facts. I suspect that much of this hatred is also artificial and is being fueled by the sums of money that Keytar and Iran are supplying for purposes of their long-term ideology of Muslim world domination.

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Harold Saive's avatar

Netenyahu claims he uses HAMAS to stir trouble in order to prevent a 2-state solution. HAMAS leadership is so corrupted they act as an arm of Netenyahu and the ultra-right Likudists. You will also find that GAZA did not vote for HAMAS - they were voted-in by the West bank sector who are now under attack in a witch-hunt by Zionist settlers. -- Zionism is not Judaism and has the effect of increasing antisemitism against religious Jews. The word was never used before 1890 when Rabbi Nathan Birnbaum applied the term to a spiritual longing and covenant with God that one day he would return the Jews to" ZION". When the heretics applied zionism to a campaign of terrorist tactics to achieve statehood before God had ordained it, Birnbaum walked away from the corrupted meaning of "Zionism". The British empire was influential in promoting the hostile "Zionist" movement and the Zionists talked Hitler into transferring Zionists to settle in Palestine where local Palestinians came under attack and eventually became out-numbered with Zionists who unlawfully seized Palestinian property. (Read "THE TRANSFER AGREEMENT") The Neturei Karta sect is well informed on the history of the Zionist infiltration as it served the British empire to colonize the vast energy resources of the middle-east along with their partners in the USA. - https://www.facebook.com/netureikarta2021/

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Cousin Clem's avatar

It's a very complicated mess. One has to ask why the Israelis didn't detect bulldozers moving into the area on Oct 7 with all their surveillance devices that can sense any human movement, why they took most of the day to respond and why Netanyahu was helping fund Hamas. Did Netanyahu allow this to happen to justify the current genocide taking place? There appears to be hateful leaders on both sides. I see no end to this. One side kills the other, the other seeks revenge, which justifies the other side to seek retaliation for the revenge and so on. Part of the problem appears to be the artificial borders created after WWI but the tribalism goes much further back. People seek freedom, security, and the ability to raise their families without fear. Placing people into small ghettos, preventing the from making a living, starving them, cutting off their water and then stealing their lands to give to others of your tribe tends to make them lash out. There is huge sums of money flowing into these hot spots from supporters of both sides. Maybe when the money stops, people will find ways to live with each other, but probably not. All wars are banker's wars. Somewhere, someone is making lots of money off of the conflict.

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Harold Saive's avatar

Like 9/11... they let it happen. -- Robust evidence the OCT 7 HAMAS Massacre was a false flag operation with stand-down orders to IDF to allow it to happen.

https://tinyurl.com/57upd3w9

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David Harold Chester's avatar

Such wisdom is easy to apply after the event, which certainly was not planned on the Israeli side. You don't let 1,200 or more of your fellow citizens be subject to homicide in order to get a political advantage. False news can be so obvious when you look at both aspects.

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Cousin Clem's avatar

It isn't the first time. Look back to Pearl Harbor. Our gov't knew the attack was coming but needed a catastrophic event to motivate the public to enter the war. The Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor is one of several books that discuss this. It's more than about political advantages. Sometimes it takes horrible events to motiate a citizenry to allow their gov'ts to perform heinous actions in their name.

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David Harold Chester's avatar

Cousin, Its not so complicated as you claim. When the kibbutzim in the Gaza region were infiltrated by murderous extremist radical Muslims who have dedicated themselves to genocide of the Jewish people, the only possible response is to fight them. This is also aimed at stopping this movement from reaching the rest of the world, which this means of terrorism has also demonstrated.

It should be clearly stated that these Hamas and Jihad terrorists are only a small fraction of the Palestinians, who in fact are somewhat opposed to them. These Palestinians mostly seek peace not war. But it is with these non-extremists (many thousands of whom have been employed inside Israel for many years, and are satisfied with this gainful situation), that the Israeli government have failed to make peace, because their leaders form a small minority who side with the extremists, although they do their best to hide this truth. It may be a muddle East, but its basics are clear.

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Cousin Clem's avatar

Or perhaps there should have been a quicker response from the get-go, like when the movement detectors should have alerted the gov't that there was something happening at the fence-line and their satellite surveillance should have shown them there was a crowd with a bulldozer. And as I'm sure they observed in the same satellite surveillance, they moved through the fenced border, they should have sent IDF immediately to the area. I agree that the majority just want to live in peace. That includes people who had farms in Gaza but had their land seized to allow other settlers to inhabit it. Netanyahu partly financed Hamas to create division within the Palestinian community. Make people too busy fighting amongst themselves to turn against those keeping them confined to a densely packed area. But I understand the Israelis also want to live in peace in a region that is predominantly Muslem. Religion unfortunately leads to endless fighting as people use their God's rules to justify violence & hatred against others. Maybe until people can accept that it's all the same God they are defending and that they are all part of that same God they will continue to kill each other in It's name.

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